Official Unofficial MxRP Smuthole - Thellsolent Angst Thread

Gimlikin knive 14-Dec-21 07:10 AM

(side-note this drama has made me occasionally check the cherp tag on tumblr and let me Tell You that was a Mistake)

(lmao)

Bird 14-Dec-21 07:12 AM

Yeah I will say one thing: fightingroleplayers is someone I had on block until today. They have actively targeted me in the past.

Gimlikin knive 14-Dec-21 07:13 AM

there is. a good reason i do not have a social media presence and never will

Bird 14-Dec-21 07:13 AM

I'm also sure they know this, and I think they're one of the more aggressive anons I've been getting, based on their opinions. So if that's true they're trying to avoid my block. Which granted, isn't there anymore.

Gimlikin knive 14-Dec-21 07:13 AM

getting into low stakes fights on discord is one thing but having a public profile where any guy on the internet can come and harass me is a big ol No Thanks

Bird 14-Dec-21 07:19 AM

I've heard worse.

Like. what are ya gonna do? Be an angry little bitch? Go ahead.

Im at the point where my feelings don't get hurt, but I'm still shocked at some of the shit people say. I get worse hate on my main blog and I also like. Don't care anymore.

Even though the stuff being said there is more harmful/personal, it's still some coward being a cunt on the internet.

Gimlikin knive 14-Dec-21 07:22 AM

its just, why bother opening myself up to it

what do i gain

Bird 14-Dec-21 07:27 AM

Hours of entertainment. It's like watching Big Brother but everyone is stupider.

Moth97 14-Dec-21 07:30 AM

I feel like having the official definition of boxing might be useful for some people. If your information is public and easily linked backed to you your not being doxxed. I'm not saying people should still be dicks but I feel like throwing around a term that doesn't apply isn't really helpful.

Gimlikin knive 14-Dec-21 07:32 AM

the words "public" and "easily linked back" are doing a whole lot of work here, because by definition any information gained by doxxing someone is to some degree public and able to be linked back to the person they belong to

because uh, otherwise, how would the person have them

Bird 14-Dec-21 07:32 AM

Uh no

It's more like. If I knew you in real life

Or hacked an account.

And was like "hey! I know gimli. Here's a picture and their address and where they work"

Moth97 14-Dec-21 07:33 AM

It's more along the lines of if I put my address out for the whole world to know I can't get mad that they now have my a dress because I published it

Gimlikin knive 14-Dec-21 07:33 AM

or it's finding a picture you took and using the background to find out the city you live in in the most fucked up game of geoguesser

Bird 14-Dec-21 07:34 AM

Yeah that's also fucked up.

Gimlikin knive 14-Dec-21 07:34 AM

but i also would like to posit the following:

there's no valid reason any person involved in any of this has any good reason to know or want to know thellere's address

Moth97 14-Dec-21 07:35 AM

The thing is it was easy to come across in the past by accident I had a friend that just stumbled upon it because he had it linked through his YouTube

Bird 14-Dec-21 07:35 AM

I don't want to know his address my dude.

Literially would be satisfied with an old Skype convo.

Moth97 14-Dec-21 07:35 AM

The friend then warned him that “hey maybe you shouldnt have you address and phone number so easily accessible.” (edited)

Because it was just one link click on his youtube

Gimlikin knive 14-Dec-21 07:36 AM

i think there's a difference between "i stumbled upon this and told him that maybe he should fix this" and being like "hey guys i found his real name:)" on your public tumblr

honestly tho, re:old conversation logs i doubt that's going to happen because im p sure thell doesn't want much to do with insolent anymore, and i imagine the sentiment is mutual

Bird 14-Dec-21 07:37 AM

I'm not going to sit here and defend fightingroleplayers.

Moth97 14-Dec-21 07:37 AM

I mean that's still not doxxing

It's a shit thing to do but by definition it's not doxxing (edited)

Gimlikin knive 14-Dec-21 07:38 AM

i guess if someone really wanted to they could go through cherpcord and other servers to log when insolent and thellere were active and see if it had any kind of suspicious pattern but that's like insane, also honestly.

Bird 14-Dec-21 07:39 AM

I'm also like, not fightingroleplayers. In the literal and figurative dense. So blowing up at me for what they said is... Well. Pointless. I don't stand by anything they've said and done. I'm not interested in discovering their real identities. But I have a friend I don't talk to that I've been friends with for even longer and if you told me to provide evidence of our friendship, I could do so in twenty minutes.

Without disclosing any sensitive information about either of us.

Bird

I'm also like, not fightingroleplayers. In the literal and figurative dense. So blowing up at me for what they said is... Well. Pointless. I don't stand by anything they've said and done. I'm not interested in discovering their real identities. But I have a friend I don't talk to that I've been friends with for even longer and if you told me to provide evidence of our friendship, I could do so in twenty minutes.

Gimlikin knive 14-Dec-21 07:40 AM

im not :p im using "you" in the uh. fuckin

whats the word here

Gimlikin knive

i guess if someone really wanted to they could go through cherpcord and other servers to log when insolent and thellere were active and see if it had any kind of suspicious pattern but that's like insane, also honestly.

Moth97 14-Dec-21 07:40 AM

Not really a lot of the chats are inaccessible

Bird 14-Dec-21 07:40 AM

I'm talking about how this conversation started.

Gimlikin knive

im not :p im using "you" in the uh. fuckin

Moth97 14-Dec-21 07:41 AM

Literal sense

Bird 14-Dec-21 07:41 AM

General sense actually

I'm just saying there was really no point in getting mad at me. I made a speculation, pointed out some fishy activity. Said ive drawn a conclusion and why I think that. Said I'm open to being proven wrong.

Moth97 14-Dec-21 07:42 AM

But they're using you in the general sense so they're not using you in the literal sense

Bird 14-Dec-21 07:43 AM

I beleive it's general/specific.

Those are the two options

Moth97 14-Dec-21 07:43 AM

Doesn't matter its bit what's important here lmao

Still I wait for the conclusion of this I have my opinions which I shall not share here but I am curious to see what happens next.

Bird 14-Dec-21 07:50 AM

Yeah I guess I'm mostly here as a moderate/skeptic person who is considering this line of thinking. I'm not jumping the gun and going with the Omnithelle theory.

Moth97 14-Dec-21 07:53 AM

Are you sure you're not just thell too

Bird 14-Dec-21 08:00 AM

Christ maybe I am

Maybe the real Thellere was the friends we made along the way

3

Marvelous is Blind 14-Dec-21 10:01 AM

It's pretty early for Thellsolent cherp-tag, but there it is.

Gimlistuck (Bread haters DNI) 14-Dec-21 10:03 AM

Well they are active rn so it’s obvious they’ve nothing better to do

I just decided to check cause I was curious

Marvelous is Blind 14-Dec-21 10:04 AM

I have a lull for a few, so I decided to check.

My day off is over...

Big Sbeve (Anti-Skub) 14-Dec-21 12:16 PM

Well this popped off while i was asleep

Marvelous is Blind 14-Dec-21 12:18 PM

Did you sleep well?

Big Sbeve (Anti-Skub) 14-Dec-21 12:19 PM

Eh!

Marvelous is Blind 14-Dec-21 12:19 PM

I feel that on every fiber level of my entire being

Hex 14-Dec-21 02:17 PM

Hey @Big Sbeve (Anti-Skub), is there a reason why Fae doesn't have permission to talk in here? Are the permissions screwed up or something?

Big Sbeve (Anti-Skub) 14-Dec-21 02:17 PM

Wh

They did last night, what

Hex 14-Dec-21 02:17 PM

Big Sbeve (Anti-Skub) 14-Dec-21 02:17 PM

What

Ok hold on

Can they type in salt hole?

Because this is what thread settings looks like

Im not even certain if you can blacklist people off them?

Hex 14-Dec-21 02:20 PM

They just said a thing in #salt-hole

Big Sbeve (Anti-Skub) 14-Dec-21 02:20 PM

Ok i went and manually gave their roles permission to send messages in threads

I dont know what changed between them talking in here last night and now but hopefully its fixed

Hex 14-Dec-21 02:21 PM

Audit log might reveal something, idk.

Big Sbeve (Anti-Skub) 14-Dec-21 02:21 PM

Lemmie peep

Looks like cube locked the thread? But that literally cant be right because we're all talking in it

Marvelous is Blind 14-Dec-21 02:24 PM

Interesting...

Sounds like fuckery.

Discord

Hex 14-Dec-21 02:24 PM

Was that an official decision from the mods here? To lock the thread?

Cube 14-Dec-21 02:24 PM

Huh that's my bad

So I enabled the setting so that users wouldn't be unable to unlock the thread, I genuinely didn't think that would lock it for everyone else, mb

Thellere 14-Dec-21 02:26 PM

It shouldn't have considering other non-mods have been able to type in here

Hex 14-Dec-21 02:26 PM

Can that be disabled again? See if it fixes it. I don't get why I'm able to talk.

Big Sbeve (Anti-Skub) 14-Dec-21 02:27 PM

im super fucking confused

fae 14-Dec-21 02:28 PM

AYYY

IM FREE

Big Sbeve (Anti-Skub) 14-Dec-21 02:28 PM

ok i made it so anyone can unarchive this

AYYY

fae 14-Dec-21 02:28 PM

IVE BEEN UNCENSORED

Big Sbeve (Anti-Skub) 14-Dec-21 02:28 PM

that was the kicker

Cube 14-Dec-21 02:28 PM

Wait so wtf

Hex 14-Dec-21 02:28 PM

That makes no sense whatsoever.

Cube 14-Dec-21 02:28 PM

^

Hex 14-Dec-21 02:28 PM

I guess just, enable that again when you guys are really ready to archive this thread.

Cube 14-Dec-21 02:28 PM

I was about to say, logistically, how is far unable but hex able

Fae *

Thellere 14-Dec-21 02:29 PM

I've had permission to type too so

What was the issue, out of curiosity?

Oh, unarchive perms

fae 14-Dec-21 02:29 PM

i don't know i woke up this morning and thought you had archived because i didn't have speaking privileges

but hex said they were able to speak still

so

wack

Hex 14-Dec-21 02:30 PM

This thread feature may still have some strange bugs, me thinks.

Thellere 14-Dec-21 02:30 PM

Anyway I'm not reading all the shit above and I need to order food but before I start doing that I do wanna point out something that apparently keeps coming up

Big Sbeve (Anti-Skub) 14-Dec-21 02:30 PM

Bit of transparency here- we might not archive it This whole thing is a bit touchy and i've got some buyers remorse on letting this drama root in the server

Cube 14-Dec-21 02:30 PM

Nah it was still active, I just enabled it so people couldn't unarchive it when it is archived.

Big Sbeve (Anti-Skub) 14-Dec-21 02:31 PM

But i do want it to like Play itself out before we send this viking burial out to see

Cube 14-Dec-21 02:31 PM

(at least that's what I believed I was doing)

fae 14-Dec-21 02:31 PM

oh i'm not mad

Thellere 14-Dec-21 02:31 PM

Assuming this whole thing was true and I wanted the site down, I'd have infinitely better luck just doing it under my name. My shit is in much more important places than hers, and a lot of it is shit I wasn't paid to do. So. Y'know.

(Namely, the database, Redis interface, and Session code)

fae 14-Dec-21 02:32 PM

thellere is an infamous name though, maybe you wanted to keep that shit away from you

Thellere 14-Dec-21 02:32 PM

(None of which does anything particularly unique but would cause a faff)

Big Sbeve (Anti-Skub) 14-Dec-21 02:33 PM

Honestly i'm just waiting for the docs thelle said he was getting and then i wanna put this shit down and go back to posting about shortstacks in r34

fae 14-Dec-21 02:34 PM

bird mentioned Some Things above but said they were unsure about "omnithell" but the only sus thing to me that makes me think about aki/thellspiracy is that nobody had contact for AKI aside from thellere, and then evelyn got into contact with him in like? 24 hours?

Thellere 14-Dec-21 02:34 PM

Yeah, we're on revision 3 that she's accepted in principle and as soon as her signature is on it, TT is being sent the link. Which, because apparently needs to be a fucking thing now, has location data embedded.

Anyway, I need some fucking burgers

Cube 14-Dec-21 02:36 PM

(Hey gimme a sec, I wanna try enabling that setting again and checking something, sorry fae for the next like 5 minutes)

Bird 14-Dec-21 02:36 PM

Omnithelle is 100% not true.

Cube 14-Dec-21 02:36 PM

oh

Hey bird

Bird 14-Dec-21 02:36 PM

I'm not unsure about that lol

fae 14-Dec-21 02:36 PM

hey bird lmao

Cube 14-Dec-21 02:36 PM

Tell me if you can still speak in here in a second

fae 14-Dec-21 02:36 PM

will do

Bird 14-Dec-21 02:36 PM

:v

Cube 14-Dec-21 02:38 PM

Yall can talk here now again I think

For reference, This is the setting stopping that somehow

Texas "Pringle Bagger" Red 14-Dec-21 02:39 PM

fae 14-Dec-21 02:39 PM

i'm free once more

Cube 14-Dec-21 02:39 PM

(Which, from reading, sounds like, If you turn it off, No one but Admins should be able to unarchieve a Archieved thread, since technically anyone can do that. But that stops people from speaking it seems. Strange.)

fae 14-Dec-21 02:39 PM

thread glitches

Bird 14-Dec-21 02:40 PM

Anyway my main point I had been discussing: either way it was a sketchy thing that happened. I don't understand why anyone would do that like they did. If it was true it's like. Very much unintended use of the site. You are 100% not supposed to share stripe credentials.

fae 14-Dec-21 02:41 PM

btw bird, i don't think omnithell is true either. i just don't have any evidence to prove that he isn't everyone and there are really sus things about a lot of the interactions between these people that make me more willing to be skeptical, if that makes sense

Bird 14-Dec-21 02:42 PM

I initially engaged in all of this to make fun of it as I said before.

Thellere 14-Dec-21 02:42 PM

Well I'm certainly glad that people blasting my address (that is only available online because it's legally required to be) around and finding my phone number is fun to people. (edited)

fae 14-Dec-21 02:43 PM

the doxxing isn't cool and neither of us said it was

Thellere 14-Dec-21 02:43 PM

Awful lot of people have been going "Well is it REALLY doxxing, this isn't that bad" though.

fae 14-Dec-21 02:43 PM

it's doxxing. and i'm sorry it's happening.

Cube 14-Dec-21 02:44 PM

I think people are making fun of how stupid the conspiricy sounds- However the hunting down your details is fucking awful.

Also- On that front, I hope you've not had any more calls.

Thellere 14-Dec-21 02:44 PM

Like, to be clear, I know from the screenshots that were posted in here that they also have the names and addresses of people who have never been involved with Cherp, and because of this community's history, I now have to warn them about it.

fae 14-Dec-21 02:44 PM

yeah that's gross, but the theories are otherwise harmless considering they affect an alias and not your personal name. if the doxxing wasn't happening it'd be a lot more laughable than it is

but now it's gotten to a shitty point

Cube 14-Dec-21 02:45 PM

Eh

I dont

Thellere 14-Dec-21 02:46 PM

I don't think dragging the online name I use through the mud is harmless considering it's the primary way I make a living.

Cube 14-Dec-21 02:46 PM

entirely agree with that fae. Like even if its only targeting an alias, theres still a person behind that alias.

also that

Thellere 14-Dec-21 02:47 PM

Like, to be clear, Cherp was 90% of my income. The other 10% was freelance stuff that I arguably only got because of my involvement with Cherp being useful experience for the contracts I took.

This is, very arguably, people trying to ruin my livelihood.

fae 14-Dec-21 02:47 PM

disprove the theories indefinitely then

Big Sbeve (Anti-Skub) 14-Dec-21 02:47 PM

Thats asking a lot

fae 14-Dec-21 02:48 PM

not really

Bird 14-Dec-21 02:48 PM

I'm not interested in doing any of that. And considering I know one of the people you were referring to irl I'm not interested in doxxing you or any of your friends.

Thellere 14-Dec-21 02:48 PM

With all due respect, I'm not doxxing someone because some shitty online community tells me to even if the penalty is going bankrupt. That's fucked up of you to tell me to do, fae.

fae 14-Dec-21 02:49 PM

that isn't what i said

Thellere 14-Dec-21 02:49 PM

TT will be getting a copy of the signed agreement that is being worked on, and I will ask TT to confirm it in here.

Marvelous is Blind 14-Dec-21 02:49 PM

You're making a new agreement with Insolent?

Thellere 14-Dec-21 02:49 PM

Yes.

Penalty clauses are a bitch, and TT knows how much money is on the line from her.

Big Sbeve (Anti-Skub) 14-Dec-21 02:50 PM

Also we have to take into account that fightingroleplays will not believe a word thelle says on this, even going as far as to say that he wouldnt believe insolent exists even if thelle showed up to their house with insolent next to him This isn't something Thelle can do, despite him being the only one that can Its why i claimed FR is trying to dox people, because theres very little you can do here except for trying to dox Insolent herself

Thellere

With all due respect, I'm not doxxing someone because some shitty online community tells me to even if the penalty is going bankrupt. That's fucked up of you to tell me to do, fae.

bun 14-Dec-21 02:50 PM

sorry i don't normally hop into these convos, but this is just blatantly twisting fae's words. proving could be something as simple as bird mentioned in the tag with old screenshots (which i understand you might not want to do anyway) or some other harmless method of showing distinct people. they never said to dox anyone. (sorry again for jumping in)

fae 14-Dec-21 02:50 PM

if these people are real and they worked with you like... even if you ended on bad terms they would be willing to prove they exist separately wouldn't they? like no offense but if someone was associating me with someone that i didn't OR DID like professionally, i'd hop in to prove some shit.

Thellere 14-Dec-21 02:50 PM

OK, let me turn this around

Why the fuck should they prove it to you?

How does it benefit them for them to take the time to do that?

fae 14-Dec-21 02:51 PM

i mean i dont care but i figured you would

Thellere 14-Dec-21 02:51 PM

What even counts as acceptable proof?

fae 14-Dec-21 02:51 PM

some record of online manifestation of insolent before mxrp/cherp

easy

Thellere 14-Dec-21 02:51 PM

Like Steve said, the burden of proof is so astronomically impossible to meet at this point that I'm just relying on TT to not be a cock about it when the time comes

Bird 14-Dec-21 02:52 PM

Yeah, like. Personally I would be satisfied with logs of conversations between only Insolent and Thelle from discord, Skype, etc. They can be vague, can be a short snippit. Just something that shows you were two ppl that know each other. I don't care about your irl identity. But I know that a lot of ppl, especially the ones revealing personal info, won't feel like that's enough. So at this point I'm starting to not rlly care.

Bird

Yeah, like. Personally I would be satisfied with logs of conversations between only Insolent and Thelle from discord, Skype, etc. They can be vague, can be a short snippit. Just something that shows you were two ppl that know each other. I don't care about your irl identity. But I know that a lot of ppl, especially the ones revealing personal info, won't feel like that's enough. So at this point I'm starting to not rlly care.

fae 14-Dec-21 02:52 PM

yeah

and logs between you and AKI because that shit has ALWAYS rubbed me the wrong way

you have to admit your interactions are sus as fuck, dude

Thellere 14-Dec-21 02:53 PM

Yeah, no, I'm not posting any message logs, fuck off with that.

fae 14-Dec-21 02:53 PM

then i'll keep speculating

Bird 14-Dec-21 02:53 PM

It's one of those "do you really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and lie?" Like if ur lying that doesn't really affect me tbh. You do you. If you're telling the truth I also don't rlly care. Just. With some distance and time to think. It doesn't really matter.

Thellere 14-Dec-21 02:53 PM

I might just be old, but back in the day we called them private messages.

Cube 14-Dec-21 02:53 PM

Fae.

fae 14-Dec-21 02:53 PM

hex & i use screenshots constantly for conversations they make the most sense

Cube

Fae.

fae 14-Dec-21 02:53 PM

my bad, should use tone indicators

Big Sbeve (Anti-Skub) 14-Dec-21 02:53 PM

Fae dont like Purposefully elbow nudge on that

yeah

fae 14-Dec-21 02:54 PM

i'm being good i promise

Bird 14-Dec-21 02:55 PM

Also in this situation you don't post a whole convo @Thellere this is a pretty old technique of proving someone isn't a sockpuppet. It's like. The classic way.

But if you don't want to I'm. Yeah. Kinda past the point of caring.

Thellere 14-Dec-21 02:55 PM

Yeah, cool, still not doing it.

fae 14-Dec-21 02:55 PM

we don't need intimate history at all! just a short "how are you" or work conversation that is public knowledge is completely sufficient

Thellere 14-Dec-21 02:56 PM

Plus she goes through accounts like I go through Twixes, so I'm pretty sure seeing messages from Deleted Account [hex code string] isn't going to satisfy anyone anyway.

Cube 14-Dec-21 02:56 PM

Isn't at least like

her old main account deleted

Bird 14-Dec-21 02:56 PM

I would be but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I also realize I'm not everyone.