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salt-hole / Thellsolent Angst Thread
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fae 14-Dec-21 12:11 AM
the internet is gonna speculate whether it's in a thread or not
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Gimlikin knive 14-Dec-21 12:11 AM
i think its moreso that people are going to talk about it and having a place to quarantine it is pretty much the only way to make sure that #salt-hole isn't just this thread short of just banning discussion of the situation outright
this 1
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Hex 14-Dec-21 12:11 AM
Yes, that.
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I'm of the opinion that this thread being allowed to exist in the first place was a mistake and that it was a deliberate attempt to shitstir, but yknow
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Big Sbeve (Anti-Skub) 14-Dec-21 12:11 AM
I can promise you it was not that. We created this thread for containment purposes because it was bubbling away in salt hole
It just sorta Became This (edited)
while i played mechanicus and did searches
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fae 14-Dec-21 12:12 AM
honestly this is more contained than it ever would've been in the old server
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genesis, the one and only!! 💫 14-Dec-21 12:13 AM
peeks out from the corner
hi
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Gimlistuck (Bread haters DNI) 14-Dec-21 12:13 AM
Hello Gen
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Big Sbeve (Anti-Skub) 14-Dec-21 12:13 AM
👋 hello genesis
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genesis, the one and only!! 💫 14-Dec-21 12:13 AM
hello hello :]
it is 11:13 and i cannot sleep
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Marvelous is Blind 14-Dec-21 12:13 AM
Good evening everyone!
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genesis, the one and only!! 💫 14-Dec-21 12:13 AM
..
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Marvelous is Blind 14-Dec-21 12:13 AM
How are we on this meteor-shower evening?
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honestly at this point all the possible postulation we could possibly do is done with, the only thing left to do is see what happens
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fae 14-Dec-21 12:14 AM
i do think that postulating about the theories are really interesting most of the time though!
kinda like conspiracy theories
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genesis, the one and only!! 💫 14-Dec-21 12:14 AM
that song won't go away. rainbow factory is playing in a loop in my brain
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i do think that postulating about the theories are really interesting most of the time though!
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Femboy Henry Official 14-Dec-21 12:14 AM
we already did that though
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genesis, the one and only!! 💫 14-Dec-21 12:14 AM
what a phase lol
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Gimlikin knive 14-Dec-21 12:15 AM
honestly tho this thread is the only place for anybody to get news about what the hell is going on with the situation since cherpcord is more or less mum about it
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Hex 14-Dec-21 12:15 AM
Not quite true, there's also the tag. But who wants to subject themselves to that?
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Femboy Henry Official 14-Dec-21 12:15 AM
it is rly our business though
we're an unafilliated porn server
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Not quite true, there's also the tag. But who wants to subject themselves to that?
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fae 14-Dec-21 12:15 AM
👋
👋 2
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Femboy Henry Official 14-Dec-21 12:15 AM
i just wanna put that into perspective again
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Marvelous is Blind 14-Dec-21 12:16 AM
Unaffiliated Multi-RP Site Porn Server?
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Femboy Henry Official 14-Dec-21 12:16 AM
yes
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genesis, the one and only!! 💫 14-Dec-21 12:16 AM
yeah ig
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Femboy Henry Official 14-Dec-21 12:16 AM
its in the server title
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Marvelous is Blind 14-Dec-21 12:17 AM
I was trying to make that be UM SRS and I failed.
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genesis, the one and only!! 💫 14-Dec-21 12:17 AM
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Gimlistuck (Bread haters DNI) 14-Dec-21 12:17 AM
I should really be in bed for I have a big day ahead of me tomorrow
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Marvelous is Blind 14-Dec-21 12:18 AM
You and I both.
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Big Sbeve (Anti-Skub) 14-Dec-21 12:18 AM
If yall need to sleep, sleep
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Marvelous is Blind 14-Dec-21 12:18 AM
But by really big day I mean many meetings.
I've got a terrible headache, personally.
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If yall need to sleep, sleep
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Gimlistuck (Bread haters DNI) 14-Dec-21 12:18 AM
I am simply not tired Father
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Femboy Henry Official 14-Dec-21 12:18 AM
go to bed nyall
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genesis, the one and only!! 💫 14-Dec-21 12:18 AM
i have a stuffy nose
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Big Sbeve (Anti-Skub) 14-Dec-21 12:18 AM
Slurp down some gamer power juice (water)
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Marvelous is Blind 14-Dec-21 12:19 AM
Hello fae! Nice to meet you.
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fae 14-Dec-21 12:19 AM
there's mostly just some questions i reviewed in the thread that i thought were answered interestingly
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Hello fae! Nice to meet you.
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fae 14-Dec-21 12:19 AM
hi there
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Texas "Pringle Bagger" Red 14-Dec-21 12:19 AM
for once i am going to go to bed at a decent time, as my body is currently either try to summon the Flu, or jjst mill me outright
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genesis, the one and only!! 💫 14-Dec-21 12:19 AM
hello fae 👋
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Texas "Pringle Bagger" Red 14-Dec-21 12:19 AM
Howdy fae, glad to see you about
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fae 14-Dec-21 12:19 AM
hello old buddies
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Marvelous is Blind 14-Dec-21 12:19 AM
Texas, drink water and if you overheat keep your stomach cool.
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for once i am going to go to bed at a decent time, as my body is currently either try to summon the Flu, or jjst mill me outright
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Gimlistuck (Bread haters DNI) 14-Dec-21 12:19 AM
Pls don’t die Tex
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for once i am going to go to bed at a decent time, as my body is currently either try to summon the Flu, or jjst mill me outright
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genesis, the one and only!! 💫 14-Dec-21 12:20 AM
let me be on your deathbed, for i am suffering an ailment....
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Gimlistuck (Bread haters DNI) 14-Dec-21 12:20 AM
Tex don’t die because
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Femboy Henry Official 14-Dec-21 12:21 AM
gim can only express emotions through memes
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Gimlistuck (Bread haters DNI) 14-Dec-21 12:21 AM
Gim does not know how to handle Big Emotions
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Texas "Pringle Bagger" Red 14-Dec-21 12:22 AM
me and gimli when things get emotional
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fae 14-Dec-21 12:22 AM
simps
speaking from experience
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Gimlistuck (Bread haters DNI) 14-Dec-21 12:22 AM
Sometimes it’s just stock sound effects
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genesis, the one and only!! 💫 14-Dec-21 12:23 AM
@Gimlistuck (Bread haters DNI) @Texas "Pringle Bagger" Red both of u are the same person
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Femboy Henry Official 14-Dec-21 12:24 AM
can confirm
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Gimlistuck (Bread haters DNI) 14-Dec-21 12:24 AM
Actually. That can neither be confirmed nor denied and a strike team shall be on their way shortly.
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Femboy Henry Official 14-Dec-21 12:24 AM
someone post it on the tag
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genesis, the one and only!! 💫 14-Dec-21 12:24 AM
I WILL DIE ON THIS MOUNTAIN
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Femboy Henry Official 14-Dec-21 12:24 AM
new conspiracy theory just dropped
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fae 14-Dec-21 12:24 AM
gimli and tex are different people, i have solid sources
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genesis, the one and only!! 💫 14-Dec-21 12:24 AM
damn
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Gimlikin knive 14-Dec-21 12:24 AM
legally speaking, im the same person as modeus
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genesis, the one and only!! 💫 14-Dec-21 12:24 AM
fucked up
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fae 14-Dec-21 12:25 AM
@Hex and i are the same
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Hex 14-Dec-21 12:25 AM
Outed by my own sockpuppet.
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fae 14-Dec-21 12:25 AM
fex conspiracy
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Femboy Henry Official 14-Dec-21 12:25 AM
-cameta click noise-
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genesis, the one and only!! 💫 14-Dec-21 12:25 AM
how devastating
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Femboy Henry Official 14-Dec-21 12:25 AM
fuckin gotcha
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Marvelous is Blind 14-Dec-21 12:26 AM
My conspiracy theory is that Hex is actually a super hacker from the 80s with cool theme music.
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genesis, the one and only!! 💫 14-Dec-21 12:26 AM
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Marvelous is Blind 14-Dec-21 12:26 AM
And sunglasses.
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My conspiracy theory is that Hex is actually a super hacker from the 80s with cool theme music.
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Hex 14-Dec-21 12:26 AM
😎
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genesis, the one and only!! 💫 14-Dec-21 12:26 AM
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Gimlistuck (Bread haters DNI) 14-Dec-21 12:26 AM
Legally speaking it can not be disclosed if I helped an elf and some hobbits recently
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My conspiracy theory is that Hex is actually a super hacker from the 80s with cool theme music.
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fae 14-Dec-21 12:26 AM
i can confirm this, but they wear the 90's compsci dev glasses
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Marvelous is Blind 14-Dec-21 12:26 AM
10/10 Hex confirmed as coolkid.
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Femboy Henry Official 14-Dec-21 12:26 AM
yo keep the nudity to nsfw categories
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10/10 Hex confirmed as coolkid.
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fae 14-Dec-21 12:27 AM
debatable /hj
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yo keep the nudity to nsfw categories
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genesis, the one and only!! 💫 14-Dec-21 12:27 AM
it's just a little hubba ubba
little crinkly,,, little man,
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Femboy Henry Official 14-Dec-21 12:27 AM
no scrimblos allowed
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genesis, the one and only!! 💫 14-Dec-21 12:28 AM
MOTHERFUCKER 🗡
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Femboy Henry Official 14-Dec-21 12:28 AM
not on my christian minecraft server
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genesis, the one and only!! 💫 14-Dec-21 12:28 AM
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Marvelous is Blind 14-Dec-21 12:28 AM
Where's the church though, Henry? I have to pray against Herobrine.
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Texas "Pringle Bagger" Red 14-Dec-21 12:28 AM
wheres hims clothes, hes cold
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wheres hims clothes, hes cold
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genesis, the one and only!! 💫 14-Dec-21 12:28 AM
he's fine :)
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fae 14-Dec-21 12:28 AM
pray at the statue of Multi Alias RP Site Hell
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Where's the church though, Henry? I have to pray against Herobrine.
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Femboy Henry Official 14-Dec-21 12:29 AM
walk outside, go to the left, and up ahead there should be a creeper nailed to the cross. if you get to the popeyes you went too far
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Marvelous is Blind 14-Dec-21 12:29 AM
Oh by the Chili's, right?
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Femboy Henry Official 14-Dec-21 12:29 AM
yeah that one
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Texas "Pringle Bagger" Red 14-Dec-21 12:30 AM
did yall hear somebody died in that chili's
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Femboy Henry Official 14-Dec-21 12:30 AM
deadass?
smh the property value is going down
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did yall hear somebody died in that chili's
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Gimlistuck (Bread haters DNI) 14-Dec-21 12:31 AM
Tex, that was an elf
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genesis, the one and only!! 💫 14-Dec-21 12:31 AM
must've been a hot death lmao
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Texas "Pringle Bagger" Red 14-Dec-21 12:31 AM
yeah they keep his netherite sword in a picture frame behind the counter.
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Marvelous is Blind 14-Dec-21 12:31 AM
There goes the neighborhood...
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Femboy Henry Official 14-Dec-21 12:31 AM
how am i going to sell my dirt hut now?
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Gimlistuck (Bread haters DNI) 14-Dec-21 12:31 AM
SMH knife-ears aren’t people!! /j
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genesis, the one and only!! 💫 14-Dec-21 12:31 AM
god that's such a harsh thing to say to an elf,,
but so is split-lip to sanghelis
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Gimlistuck (Bread haters DNI) 14-Dec-21 12:32 AM
Remember. I am a dwarf.
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fae 14-Dec-21 12:32 AM
im still reading an occasionally i scroll down and just see some fuckin chilis slander
are yall ok
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are yall ok
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genesis, the one and only!! 💫 14-Dec-21 12:32 AM
both
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Femboy Henry Official 14-Dec-21 12:32 AM
the racial tensions in this town are not helping the property value either
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Gimlistuck (Bread haters DNI) 14-Dec-21 12:33 AM
Listen the elf had it coming to him Henry
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Femboy Henry Official 14-Dec-21 12:33 AM
im about to call my local representative gimli
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Marvelous is Blind 14-Dec-21 12:33 AM
It's the furry skins vs the fantasy skins again
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Texas "Pringle Bagger" Red 14-Dec-21 12:33 AM
ever since those orks moved in to my neighborhood i havent slept!
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im about to call my local representative gimli
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Gimlistuck (Bread haters DNI) 14-Dec-21 12:33 AM
You can’t prove I did anything.
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genesis, the one and only!! 💫 14-Dec-21 12:33 AM
shush your word-guzzlah, ye knife-ear
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You can’t prove I did anything.
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Marvelous is Blind 14-Dec-21 12:33 AM
Sus
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Femboy Henry Official 14-Dec-21 12:34 AM
anyway im going to bed hopefully my orc neighbors dont get merked by creepers in the night. those godless fools
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Marvelous is Blind 14-Dec-21 12:35 AM
Night Henry, we'll just wait here for new lore/theory drops.
Have sweet dreams of rootbeer floats and whatever strange, new, delicious concoction the state fair makes this time around.
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Gimlistuck (Bread haters DNI) 14-Dec-21 12:37 AM
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Marvelous is Blind 14-Dec-21 12:45 AM
I think it's funny that people in other countries use attorney's(s') fees when it's only used on paper in the USA.
Like mwahaha... it's everywhere.
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fae 14-Dec-21 12:45 AM
the USA struggles with most things judicially
international laws with the US are rough
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Marvelous is Blind 14-Dec-21 12:46 AM
Ohhhh mmyyyy gosh.
Yes.
But I would say all judicial systems are flawed and have problems with international laws.
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fae 14-Dec-21 12:46 AM
oh absolutely
it's just impressive in such an industrialized country
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Marvelous is Blind 14-Dec-21 12:47 AM
I think the law is a fascinating web... and a pain in the ass.
I just laugh when explicitly US terms are applied to events/circumstances not in the USA.
Like my example earlier... if I remember my class correctly, in the UK it's "costs", or "fees of the solicitors/barristers".
That they have a two-tier lawyer system is pretty cool.
I'm sorry, I really like this stuff.
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jaybird 14-Dec-21 12:50 AM
there's also the fact that us-based media is the norm, so even in other countries u tend to pick up phrases that might only technically apply to america
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Marvelous is Blind 14-Dec-21 12:50 AM
That is the insane part!
I remember seeing so much US media in other countries! It was like a distraction tool of their own problems!!!
Chris-chan was INTERNATIONAL NEWS.
How crazy is that.
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jaybird 14-Dec-21 12:51 AM
i mean that's more in the realm of the internet, which is international by design
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Marvelous is Blind 14-Dec-21 12:51 AM
The first real lol-cow, the start of it, International News.
Well, only Internet people of the know knew the backgroun.
Background
I don't think the... was it BBC news, knew the Christory?
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god-slug 14-Dec-21 01:03 AM
i still remember the shock of seeing chris-chan trending on twitter
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Marvelous is Blind 14-Dec-21 01:03 AM
YES.
I think the conspiracy theory era we're in now has that same vibe of when that story was breaking/then came out on Twitter.
Not on such a large scale, obvi, but... "wait what"
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god-slug 14-Dec-21 01:07 AM
me: why is chris-chan trending me three minutes later: 🧍
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jaybird 14-Dec-21 01:08 AM
yeah that was uh that's the mood right there (edited)
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Thellere 14-Dec-21 01:10 AM
I just googled it because I'd forgotten andf
limmy
I wish I could forget again
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jaybird 14-Dec-21 01:10 AM
YUP
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Marvelous is Blind 14-Dec-21 01:11 AM
The trial is supposedly Jan/Feb...?
It's going to be fascinating because of one of the questions at stake here
Ah that might be too sensitive nvm
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genesis, the one and only!! 💫 14-Dec-21 01:31 AM
DKDFHSNFJDU
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fae 14-Dec-21 01:40 AM
laws? more like anarchy
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Bird 14-Dec-21 03:52 AM
So here's where I'm at with this. I think, if anyone is the same person, it's Thelle and Insolent. I don't think Aki, Eve, or anyone else is either of them. I think that it started off as a small white lie. Insolent is an identity created to keep it seperate from Thelle's usual identity. I don't think it was malicious. I don't think it was a scam. And then, for legal purposes, Thelle had to be involved on the back end. Thelle had to get more and more involved, actually. It got stressful to the point that it was easier to kill off the connection between Insolent and Cherp, and just accept that his name was going to be attached to Cherp. However, recently we know that Thelle has been spiteful and/or destructive towards Cherp and staff. (The RPBin incident) and that happened around the same time as the notice of taking legal actions, which also comes off as spiteful and destructive. Conclusion/TLDR: Insolent isnt a real person, and was created as an alt-identity. A small lie that grew out of control. Over the years, Thelle has faced a lot of vitrol from the community as both the Insolent identity, and himself, and is understandably angry. I did post some screenshots on my chappybird account regarding suspicious activity and strange behaviour. I am perfectly happy to have my mind changed. Hell, evidence of old convos of Thelle and Insolent chatting with each other over discord/skype/text messages/etc would be enough to convince me. (Considering they knew each other for over a decade, I dont think thats a hard ask) Its really easy to prove you are two different people, legal documents dont need to be provided imho.
Im not like, angry or on a crusade. I went on fightingroleplayers tumblr to make fun of this conspiracy, full disclosure. Then the roled/sponsus/stripe thing occured to me and i pulled at a thread and now I'm kinda skeptically intrigued. (edited)
now, ive got bloodwork tomorrow and they need to check my morning cortisol levels, so i DO need to get some sleep tonight or the test will be useless. If you want to bug me about this, feel free to DM here, @ me (this will probably take the longest because ive been trying to read everything posted about it in this thread so I dont retread anything) or message me on tumblr. I WILL go to bat for Thelle if I am convinced, and I am not one to move goalposts.
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Gimlikin knive 14-Dec-21 04:51 AM
oh my fucking god stop saying that insolent and thelle are the same person
can we just
holy shit.
listen. Listen. if someone finds proof that through some insane malfeasance we live in the frankly absurd timeline where this is true then i will happily eat my words like breakfast cereal because any loss of pride will be completely overshadowed by the sheer bafflement at the level of completely unhinged you'd need to be to do something like that and the sheer insanity of this chaotic world we live in
but beyond that i desperately think we need to stop considering this as a real thing not only because it is not to put too fine a point on it completely batshit fucking insane but because thell is literally in this discord and it's probably super fucked up for him to read people accusing him of not only the most ridiculous series of lies ive ever heard posited in my life but also like, several federal crimes.
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Bird 14-Dec-21 05:34 AM
I am like, coming at this as a person that doesn't really care about crimes of this manner tbh. So that's colouring how I look at this. To me just because something is a federal crime doesn't weigh in on whether it's right or wrong.
Like if the only thing that keeps you from doing bad things is that they're illegal then. I think that says more, rather than how closely you obey the law.
And full disclosure, I was at the receiving end of a person doing a huge doxxing and harassment campaign against me, from this very community, via what turned out to be a bunch of sockpuppet accounts. My workplace was contacted at one point, by someone from tumblr. So I am, admittedly, biased towards this sort of conspiracy. I also don't think it's that hard to show proof that it's false.
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Like if the only thing that keeps you from doing bad things is that they're illegal then. I think that says more, rather than how closely you obey the law.
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Gimlikin knive 14-Dec-21 06:04 AM
i think maybe the counterpoint here is that it's not about morality inasmuch as Thell having publicly posted about some of these things, like... if it were true that these documents were forged then Thell would be fucked legally given that all of it is well-recorded both on here and within the communication between him and TT
...but i guess most of all the key missing thing here is that it'd all be entirely and completely pointless
if Thell was, indeed, Insolent and thereby the author of Cherp's code and had some vendetta against the website and wanted it shutdown he could... Just Do It.
like, there's no need for any of this.
rather than write up that whole contract he could have just revoked Cherp's access to the code outright and DMCAd the website if it stayed up
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Bird 14-Dec-21 06:10 AM
That's a good point.
I don't really understand why he did the stuff with RPBin either.
Which seemed weird to me.
Especially the timing.
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Gimlikin knive 14-Dec-21 06:21 AM
wdym by the stuff with rpbin?
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Bird 14-Dec-21 06:32 AM
The drama, Thelle's involvement. The fact he was involved before the site was even announced.
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Gimlikin knive 14-Dec-21 06:56 AM
i think thell has been pretty vocal about being perpetually annoyed about having to be the go-between for the users complaints and the staff. i think it makes perfect sense that he was "involved" with the site before it was announced, he's known for having experience hosting a site like cherp and is outspoken about his dissatisfaction with the website. if Evelyn was looking for someone to both host their website and collect complaints about cherp who better to talk to?
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Bird 14-Dec-21 07:03 AM
True. I also don't understand how what I'm saying is actively harmful. I haven't said anything cruel. Pretty sure a court of law wouldnt find some rando's tumblr post to count as compelling evidence. And again it is. So easy to prove wrong. He's been accused of worse and said worse to other people. If this was levied towards me, that I'm the same person as a friend of mine, I would say "well this is fucking stupid. Look." And just. Prove otherwise. Or ignore it. I don't understand why someone would get so worked up over something that, assuming it's not true, is a really silly accusation.
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Gimlikin knive 14-Dec-21 07:06 AM
given that pursuing this line of thought has already led people to do their damn best to dox thell i can see why he'd be touchy about it
people feel entitled to proof and then decide that they're fine to do anything in pursuit of it, because of course, they're owed it.
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Bird 14-Dec-21 07:07 AM
There is a lot of information that he made public a long time ago my dude. The information is already Out There. He put it out there himself. With his alias and real name attached. It's extremely easy to find.
A lot of people are well aware of it, and have been, for years.
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Gimlikin knive 14-Dec-21 07:08 AM
just because it's easy to find doesn't make it any less creepy to go searching for it or bringing it up
doxxing isn't creating information out of thin air
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Bird 14-Dec-21 07:08 AM
I don't want to give instructions to find stuff that he doesn't want found but let's just say a lot of people found it without looking.
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Gimlikin knive 14-Dec-21 07:09 AM
how, exactly :p
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Bird 14-Dec-21 07:09 AM
Like it was by complete accident.
I will tell you in DMs. If you're okay with that.
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